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Interview with Author Don Lee

                                  Photo of the author by Melissa Frost


Don Lee writes for Don Lee.

This may sound like quite the self-important statement to make, but Lee asserts it as fact, not bravado.

After all, Lee points out, writing is by nature a very individualized practice.

But what drives the tale of his latest novel -- his third, after 2008’s Wrack and Ruin, and his 2005 debut, Country of Origin -- is actually an homage to what happens when writers and creative minds come together, and to the friendships and rivalries that result.

The Collective, due out July 16, follows three friends -- Joshua Yoon, Eric Cho and Jessica Tsai -- who find common ground in their desire to create and learn and grow as artists of different mediums. The trio creates the 3AC (Asian American Artists Collective) while attending Macalester College. Through the narrator Eric’s eyes, they weave their way into the writing and artistic community in Boston, learning much about identity and integrity along the way. There’s sex, manipulation and abounding egos -- a recipe for any great story -- and, most poignantly, nuanced depictions of race without hammering the point over the head.

We asked Lee, a third-generation Korean American, to speak a bit about his own journey in writing, the implied responsibility of Asian American writers to bring ethnicity into the equation, and the best music to listen to whilst whittling out a novel (hint: alt-country music).

Do you think there’s an expectation for Asian American authors to write about Asian Americans and the APA experience exclusively like several of your novel’s characters initially question?

I do remember when I was in grad school, I got a lot of shit that I should write about the “Asian American experience,” which I resented like hell. Let’s say a writer is a third-generation German American. Does he or she get pressured to write about Germany or the German American experience? Of course not. So to rebel, I had white or non-race-specific characters in my stories in grad school. But then I wondered if it was rebellion or Twinkieism. There was certainly a rich well of emotions in my views on identity and racism, and eventually I addressed them full-on in a novella called “Yellow,” which became the title story of my collection. Yet the other stories, though they had Asian American characters, didn’t address race much, which was remarked upon in reviews as if it were something revolutionary.

Chang-rae Lee was the real revolutionary. For his third novel, Aloft, he had a 60-year-old white guy living on Long Island as his narrator. That took guts. I think we’ll soon see other Asian American writers pulling away in droves from having the APA experience as their subject. Quite a few writers like Ed Park, Susan Choi, and Sabrina Murray already have. And I almost certainly will, too.

You have such well-developed characters in “The Collective” -- most especially Joshua, who seems to have so many different layers of feelings and hurt that unravel through the course of the novel. Were there any particular literary figures that you looked to for inspiration in shaping his character? Or was it more a conglomerate of people from real life?

More the latter. You know, in every group, there’s always a leader, someone dynamic and larger than life. I was never one of those people. But I had several close friends who were, and what I always learned was that they were often delusional, and congenital liars, and their dynamism was driven not by confidence but by extreme insecurity. All of which makes people like that wonderful characters for a novel.

What came to you first when brainstorming and writing the book? What was the development process like as you continued to write?

The opening with Joshua’s suicide came first. Those three pages are all that remain from another novel, which was going to be very dark and nasty, about a suicidal female poet. I just wasn’t feeling that book, though, and after about a year I abandoned it. I say that as if it were a blasé decision, but really it threw me into a deep pit of panic and desperation. I thought my career was over, that I’d never write another book. But what got me going with The Collective was the thought of friendships, how they form and dissolve. I remembered all these wonderful friends -- mostly writers and artists -- I’d had in my twenties and thirties in Cambridge, and I wanted to write a love letter to that period of my life, to all the starving artists I’d known.

You include so many references to different kinds of artists and creative thinkers in the novel -- what kind of restraints do you think writing might have that other types of art do not?

I have to say, I’m jealous of the immediacy of other artists’ mediums. They can have a gallery show or do a performance or present a film, and you can see or hear or understand right away what they’ve been doing. It’s not the same giving a reading. Let’s face it, readings are boring most of the time. And you can’t give someone your book and get an instant response. Mostly what I’m jealous about, though, is how finite and often collaborative the other arts are. Writing novels is about being in a room alone … for years.

What’s your own personal writing regimen like? Do you have a good go-to cure for writer’s block?

I used to write in longhand -- that’s how old I am -- with a black Pilot Razor Point and narrow-ruled yellow legal pads, but halfway through my third book, I started writing on my laptop while listening to my iPod, and I haven’t looked back. When I’m in full first-draft mode, I aim for two pages a day, on weekends and during the summer.

I have a great trick for writer’s block. You get a kitchen timer and set it for 20 minutes. Once you press the start button, you cannot email, surf the Web, answer a call, cannot get up to use the bathroom or fetch a glass of water. During those 20 minutes, you must sit at your desk and not move, and you can either write or stare into space. Usually you end up writing, you’re so bored, and usually you’ll go beyond 20 minutes. When the timer rings, you can do whatever you want, but once you set it again, you’ve got to stay put.

The Collective seems rooted in the theme of camaraderie, and what it means to have a community to learn and grow from. What’s been the most memorable criticism you’ve ever gotten for your work from your peers?

My writer friends are very supportive. That’s not to say they softball their criticism. Somewhere along the way, I learned that it’s best to trade manuscripts with people who are at similar points in your careers. When someone is above or below you, weird personal agendas can intrude. But it’s so important to have other writers and artists around you. No one else can really understand what the hell you’re trying to do with your life.

The most memorable criticism I’ve ever received was from a well-respected editor who was then at W. W. Norton (ironically the eventual publisher of all my books). That novella, “Yellow” -- I sent it to her when I was in my early thirties, and she said she thought I hadn’t found my voice yet and maybe I wasn’t cut out to be a writer. It took me about five years to get over that comment.

Of your four books, which has been the most personal? The most difficult to write?

Oh, definitely this one. It’s not exactly autobiographical, except for some of the narrator’s romantic debacles, but it’s very personal to me, delving into all the doubts I’d had as an aspiring writer. I came very close to quitting several times. At one point, I was getting applications to grad programs in psychology, thinking I should become a therapist or counselor and stop chasing this quixotic dream of becoming a writer. No one was trying to convince me otherwise.

The challenge is different now. I think once you’re published, each new book becomes more difficult, mostly because you’re reflecting on disappointments: you never hit the big time, your books aren’t selling, you’re not getting awards, no one loves you. Being a midlist writer is the most tenuous position in publishing these days. Trying to sell your third or fourth or fifth book is infinitely harder than selling a debut. So there’s a lot at stake. You question why you’re writing, what you’re trying to accomplish as a writer. But eventually you have to say fuck it, I’m going to return to the purity of my original vision and write what I’m moved to write, and if no one wants to read it, so be it.

Who are you reading now and who inspires you?


I’ve been reading some short novels, since that’s what I’m planning to do with my next book: Train Dreams by Denis Johnson and Running Away by Jean-Philippe Toussaint. But what’s inspiring me most is alt-folk indie music (because I’m thinking of having a singer-songwriter as a character): Ryan Adams and his old band, Whiskeytown, Damien Jurado, Iron & Wine, Sun Kil Moon. During the writing of The Collective, during the most crucial part of the first draft, I played five albums by Clem Snide in continuous rotation. That band saved my life.

Don Lee will participate in a “salon-style multimedia show-and-tell” and share his writing process for The Collective at the Asian American Writers' Workshop on Thursday, July 26.

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Joyce Chen is a second-generation Taiwanese American journalist and current multimedia editor at the New York Daily News, where she covers viral videos, recaps "The Bachelorette" and wades her way through all things entertainment and gossip - with tongue firmly in cheek, of course. She originally hails from Cerritos, Calif. and graduated with degrees in print journalism and psychology from the University of Southern California, where she was previously the editor-in-chief of the Daily Trojan. Her writings have been published in People magazine, Los Angeles magazine and the Los Angeles Daily News.

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