Asians n' Hip-Hop
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Was it a coincidence that every act had at least one Asian person – actually, Filipino person – in it?
The (Asian) line up was Native Guns – MCs Kiwi and Bambu – who’ll be featured in our next issue.
Then there was Jern Eye, an MC from Lunar Heights.
And Crown City Rockers. Kat, the keyboardist – what can I say? She is a-m-a-z-i-n-g.
There were also break dancers, who all appeared to be Asian.
In Hyphen's Issue 9 (just out), I wrote an article about Asian krumpers. They're Filipino guys from Long Beach.
There’s a whole history of hip-hop in the Philippines and Filipino communities.
Recently, I've been told that I'm very "Asian-centric." Not sure what that means, if it was meant accusingly, jealously, or just as a harmless observation. But for example, it's not that I don't think all the other people in the bands are awesome - they are. And all good indie bands deserve to be in the spotlight, especially because of how corporate media has gobbled up, and continues to gobble up, more stations. You're probably not going to hear any of these acts on Clear Channel. I just think it's neat that a hip-hop show, not billed as Pinoy/Pinay or Asian-themed, happened to have at least one Filipino or Asian in the act.
If you want to catch Native Guns perform this Sunday, June 11, they're having their album release party in Los Angeles. I've never been to a rooftop party, but it sounds fun, like something from a movie.
Happy summer!!
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Hip Hop is a leathal tool, it can express ideas and opinions like no other medium. i didnt know you were a hip hop fan. its not for the charts or the massess
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"it can express ideas and opinions like no other medium"doesn't everyone say that about the medium they work in though, whether that be dance or hip hop, or painting, or whatever? everyone wants to think their way of expression is not for the masses.
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Hip hop is for the masses, as evidenced by Common in Sprite commercials, KRS-One in commercials, shiet, Lyrics Born's song was in a coke commercial or something, etc etc. Even when NWA came out, they were being bumped by suburban white kids. In this day and age, everything and anything will sell out. Money rules. And yes, 99% of hyphy music sucks!
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More Filipino hip-hop and mutli-genre flava at www.wtnrradio.com.There are so many manifestations of hip-hop music. Hip-hop music has created a connection to many youngsters especially those who aren't aligned with pop culture. Asian-Americans identify with this underground culture. It provides a forum for a voice in a world where it's difficult to be heard.
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Filipinos are copycats.They don't have their own culture so they copy everyone elses culture and traditions.They go around saying, "sorry I don't speak tagalog" -trying to sound white and all..now they're trying to copy the blacks with their idiotic version of hip hop.Other asian ethnic group have their own identity except filipinos;they don't know what they are...
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To the idiot above who believed in his/her comments so much that they chose to be anonymous - sorry you're way off base -- Filipino culture is one of the most diverse countries in terms of ethnicity. Historical conquests have made the island a large melting pot but one unlike the US and China - no official identification of ethnic groups . Filipino's are probably able to identify with hip-hop more than any other "group" in the Far East. Filipinos are the true chameleons of the Asian world!!!! Anyway... don't dog anyone for being who they wish to be. Read a little Sigmund Freud - take chill pill and listen to www.wtnrradio.com :)
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To be honost with you all Asian Hip Hop sucks, sorry. But Black people always innovate and create new trends of music and the rest of the world always follow their lead. fillipinos are the best Asian Entertainers
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Asians were not meant to dominate the pop world. we just dont have that type of Charisma. well not on an international level
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Filipinos don't have their own culture? Are you for real? Sure, Filipinos have been colonized by Europeans wanting a piece of the action. But who in Asia hasn't been?
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I'm not a Filipino, but know enough about their contributions into Hip Hop. The Invisibl Skratch Piklz were innovators of turntabalism and invented countless scratches and battle techniques. They were so good they were banned from competing beacause no one, white, black, asian, etc etc could take them out. Most were Filipino and are still rocking house parties all over the world.
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There are good DJs all over the world if the play the right music. Asian Hip Hop as a whole sucks, fillipino as well
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lol!,must be a techno fan...hey bunghole,thanks for separating pinoy hiphop amongst our asian counterparts,we pinoys are the top of the foodchain when it comes to asian hiphop,we aint commercial like other countries but we got a lot to say,there are a lot of diverse music in the pi that goes all the way back to our tribal roots all you have to do is listen...pinoys are warrior descendants if theres 2 things we love to do its music and fighting...we also love haters lol
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Look around people, When you look at Hip Hop and when you read Hip Hop. Who and what do you think of? All of you are emulating someone elses culture. How can you be known for an art form that has nothing to do with your culture. Push Asian culture and quite imitating someone elses.
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Call it what you want it, but when I think of hip Hop, I do not think of Asian, NOR FILLIPINO. I think of Asian wannabes. Hip Hop is black culture and they know it.
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when was the last time you heard a filipino song or fillipino rap song for that matter?a lot of filipino rap songs focus on taking pride on our roots and we express it in any medium possible wether be rap,rock,poetry or painting we know what we are and embrace what we are,"everything evolves and revolves",or are too ignorant to notice it,music is music it is its own culture and is mostly fuled by emotion and expression which we have a lot of,and theres a thin line between emulating and adapting we are not pinoys trying to act black we are pinoys doing hiphop music,get it stupid?"collect the knowledge that is around you and nurture it with the knowledge that you have"....when was the last time you promoted your race,your not even man enough to post it and dont say it dosent matter,and yes a lot asians do hiphop...peace to you tribal flip for sharing your voice..."if you wanna be heard you have shout louder"
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What is Hip Hop? Do you know its origins? What can you tell me about this art form? Nothing, absolutely nothing. I was around when this art form began. I love Hip Hop, but I respect it. Theres a line I will not cross. I took music History and ive researh and went into the field because I love this music. Where did the origins of rap come from? You are not the originator. You are appropiating something that did not come from your country, or mine (Japan). You are emulating and appropiating it. If you are shouting so loud then how come no one hears you? You are in denial. All the stuff you wrote in your post Hip Hoppers been doing it before you were born. So tell me something I do not know, or can you.
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oye!truth are you a hiphop fan or a fillipino radical?haha,you bring up very interesting points on fillipino hiphop.Evertime i read a post its the same old namecalling gradeschool bullshit.I think fuckers who cant relate or back up their shit always resort to half as insults.To tell you the truth i think theese bastards are jelous,since they been trying to do, just recently for 5 years what fillipino hiphopers are doing in the past 2 decades.Ive read many a history articles on fillipino hiphop and i must say i am impressed so keep doin what your doin.Fyi hiphop is pionered by black and latino kids in the streets of ny and frankly im glad its taken off globaly
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the truth wasnt talking about hiphop as a whole stupid he was talking about filipino hiphop and having pride on being filipino and nobody said filipinos started hiphop it just so happens hiphop suits us.your point of disscusions are weak and baseless...[the rest of this comment was deleted due to name-calling, including a racial slur. - eds]
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On the otherhand, How you see it, is how you see it. Hip hop is the most powerful way to express Your thoughts and mindset about any subject. No matter what the subject is. All Asians have appropiated Hip Hop, not just fillipinos. Hip Hop is not a fillipino thing. If fillipinos feel they have a right to exist in this world of Hip Hop , then so all Asians do. so I guess that makes it an Asian thing.
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i hear thatexpand on your knowledge check out history of filipino hiphop at wikipediai agree,that japanese dude had some weak points,its one thing to study it but its another thing to do it.respect is everythingpeace
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Not to be rude, but no thank you. If I want real Hip Hop, ill turn KRS1, OR even some Sugar Hill Gang. The roots because ive studied the origins of this music and its in the black Americans soul. Some people think this music is a 30 year old phenominom, but actually theyve been doing it for years, like 400. If you have some traditional fillipino Music then ill look it up and listen. Japan is far ahead of the rest of the Asian world as far as the Asian world is concerned. I guess we get so much more exposure because of the many military bases and southern style DJs from America perfomrning here. I dont want to here how fillipino Hip Hop evolved, I havent read about it, but you are emulating them. On the otherhand express yourself the best way you know how. I think you all should read my paper on Hip Hop and the history of the music. I know it, I was around and on the scene when BBOYING was the thing to do when the Rocksteady Crew were in their prime. I remember when it was cool to walk down the street with a boom box and a mat. when you saw another crew it was on. I was part of those crews then it was fun. As I grew with Hip Hop I realized that I was emulating an art form that didnt come from my country
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i read it,dint know pinoys have been doin it as early as 1980anyone have the pacquiao fight on ppv,e mail me ill bring the beers
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Origins: The roots of hip-hop in the IslandsThe beginnings of hip-hop culture in the Philippines can be attributed to several main factors; the innate of them being the heavy influx of American musical styles in that country as reflected in the widespread popularity during the 1960s of Motown artists The Temptations, The Supremes and The Jackson Five and later in the 1970s of Funk, Soul and Disco music. Bands such as The Commodores, The Gap Band, James Brown, Con Funk Shun, The Bar-Kays and Earth, Wind and Fire among many others received heavy rotation on Manila airwaves. The future importation of hip hop culture and music, similar to the previous genres mentioned can be credited to the direct contact Filipinos received with both Americans and Filipino Americans, or as they are commonly called balikbayans, stemming from the root words "balik" meaning to come back and "bayan" loosely translating into hometown or homeland.[1]The intimate relationship between hip-hop culture and the large Filipino American community along the United States West Coast naturally resulted in the exportation of rap music back to the Philippines. Numerous cassette tapes, videos, books and magazines concerning hip hop issues and popular rap artists would be sent out by Filipinos to family members back in the islands.The towns and barrios surrounding the numerous American military bases that were scattared throughout that country such as Clark Air Base in Angeles City and Subic Bay Naval Base in Olongopo were among the earliest to be exposed to the culture; as contact with African-American, Filipino American and Latino servicemen resulted in some of the earliest exposure the locals had to the new musical genre.[2]Groundbreaking hip hop films such as Wild Style (1983), Breakin (1984) and Krush Groove (1985) were also major influences; and as early as 1982 local breakdancing crews like "Whooze Co. International" (based in Angeles,Pampanga whose members were mostly from Clark Air Base)The Eclipse(whose former members included Francis Magalona,Darwin Tuason winner of TV show Dance 10 where filipinos 1st glimpse breakdancing on phillipine tv & Glenn "Kico" Lelay also a member of Whooze Co. who is now with Federation Sounds New York City working with artist such as Sean Paul,T.O.K.,Nina Sky to name a few), Info-Clash Breakers and Ground Control (whose former members included Rap Master Fordy, later to be known as Andrew E. and Jay "Smooth" MC of Bass Rhyme Posse) became mainstays in local parks and malls in and around Metro Manila such as Glorietta Mall, which was an early hotspot for breakers. Several mobile DJ crews of the era included such names as the Rock All Parties Crew which emerged onto the scene only to produce such future Pinoy rap pioneers as Andrew E. and Norman B.
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nice read,i too am interested on world hiphop be it germany,phillipines, korea or anywhere else,a couple of people here have really strong points on their take on hiphop,but i think the bottom line is everyone here has respect on its roots and influence as well as respect for their own roots and heritage,thats right everything evoles and hiphop turned into an uncontrolable force jus like any other form of art,hiphop is revolution,unity,opression,identity,and a lot of things which no one topic can box,i have respect for a lot of things ang oppinions are one of them,negative or positve,thats what keeps the balace.if you know its right do it peace
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Interesting and great post. while attending an American college I made Many African American friends. I was young and Hip Hop was new. During the Mid 80S Hip Hop was fun music. LL Cool J, Boogie Down Productions, Run DMC And Erick B. and Rakim were the joints. Dances like the Wopp was the dance of choice at most clubs, Break Dancing lost its Magic. The reason I agree with the African Americans is because many of the Hip Hoppers elders were rip off for their artistic art forms. Mainstream Americal stole it and took it for their own. Credibility and Orginality was all gone. During this time and even today Black Americans will say Hip Hop is Black music and they vowed no one will take it away. They will not repeat their elders mistakes. If you do not have the Black Americans stamp of Aprroval in the game, you will not go far, or matter to most of the world. Rock N Roll we think Elvis is the King, but in actuality he was a thief and one of the biggest copy cats in music history. Why is that? on the otherhand, its a free world and we all can do what we want. If Hop Hop is your life then so be it. I think we all can exercise our first amendmant rights. No on in here still told me anything about its origins. I believe if you are going to be involvd in something you need to know everything about it. I never new Hip Hop would go this far, but my friend said his grandfather a bluesman never thought Rock N Roll did either. What is it about Black Culture that we love so much? Can we invent something from our own culture and have the world emulate us? Or do we want to preserve our own rituals and traditiand and exploit someone elses?
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I know, thats why Asian Hip HOp sucks. A watered down version of American Hip Hop. Asians will never be known in this genre because they suck at it. I try to support Asian hip Hop and R@B, but its terrible. So you answered my question the wanna be gangsta that served in a minnimun level securty facility for stealing candy out of a a candy store. He he shut up.
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It all sucks, even Japanese. I hear fillipinos. they try to talk like the blacks and dress like them and imitate them. so does all the other asians. Latin Hip Hop sucks. I think the Puerto Ricans did a good job imitating reggae with reggaeton. Pinoy Hip Hop will always stay in the Phillipines because no one else wants to hear it. My parents are Japanese, I grew up between Japan and America. So talk all the stuff you want MR Imitator. Im just being honost. I dont know to much about european Hip Hop. I give Pinoy DJs Props. they are good as long as the play American Hip Hop. Pinoys dont set trends, no one besides the blacks set the trends. Why is every body following the leaders? They re-event Hip Hop every 10 years and every one follow their lead. I like Japanese Hip Hop Beccause the girls are cute and I can understand it, but they beats are horrible and the voices are annoying.Your opening statement sounds like something a black person would say. Be yourself. What ever that is
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im half black and half asian,and what?
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a lot has been said,but easy on the japanese cracks one mans oppinion is just one mans oppinion,you should respect it like he sholud respect yours.let me get straight to the point since i dont have that much freetime.im a japanese american working as a dj in some underground productions and have worked with blacks filipinos as well as whites all accross the west coast,and our diverse cultural backrounds is what makes our product unique,yes hiphop is black culture it was invented in the bronx alongside latino americans.but music is also universal anyone can listen and appreciate it.asian americans are still a minority in this game but people like jin,qbert and nigo are representing more than one element of hiphop.you can do all the studying and research you want but participting in it is a different kind of appreciation.american hiphop is of the highest standard of hiphop but there are different types of standards.every person has the ability to choose what form of music he wants to listen to.beats "seldom" represent a certain culture or race but lyrics usualy do,you can rap about whatever the fuck you want just as long its based on your reality,if a black rapper raps about racicsm in america no foreigner can imitate them ,and for filipinos rappers rapping about their corrupt goverment.get it hiphop is a voice like any other artform.it does show love on everyone,and everyone gives the love back by contributing.i asked a colleage of mine on his take on whites doing hiphop he only answerd"as long as they dont use the word nigger im cool with it"
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Good point, but I will admit a lot of Hip Hop in America has lost its Messages. It went from Rapping about life, to parties to political strife. Down south Crunk is what you hear on the airwaves. Ive met a lot of great Asian D Jays and I can name countles Japanese Hip Hop Artist. From Zebra to D Bo to A. I. Which I call the Japanese Lauryn Hill and by far is the most talented asian Hip Hop Artist ive ever heard. I hate to admit it, but a lot of Asian Hip Hop isnt good. It will be underground forever, well statewide. Everyone is trying to find their place in this music and want to incorporate it as its own. But to be honost, everyone will always look toward thwe African American Community for guidance. I just believe in not imitating, but originiating
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Lee Quiones, Kraftwerk, Rick Rubin, Roger Linn, SEEN 1, Crazy Legs....-All non African Americans that played a role in the formation of Hip-Hop as a music and culture.I guess Didn't Know really doesn't. If he's still around, please tell me who Afrika Bambataa sampled heavily from for the Planet Rock single?Where they of African descent? Didn't think so.Let's be honest, Everyone borrows. Grandmaster Flash borowed Chic's, "Good Times" break, Rakim jacked a classic Bollywood record for, "Addictive", Wu-tang borrowed samples from Kung Fu movies etc. Do I need to jump into my time machine and ask that they please stop misapporpriating other genres and cultures? Should I demand the masters back for, "Tried By 12" (E. Flatbush Project) on the grounds that they borrowed from my beloved Japanese culture?Dry your eyes America, hip hop is far from dead, the business has just fell on some rough times. People realized that the same, "this is black music and should stay that way" sentiment is akin to, "this is a white country and should stay that way". The survival of hip hop rests on all of our shoulders (ie. multi-ethnic and multi-national), not just those of the good people in the South Bronx, Sedgwick and Cedar during the late 70's. (this by the way, is a great time to discover new artists and find the hip hop that reflects the golden age -it's out there, just look) Although I commend the notion of giving credit where it's due, the fact remains, that no culture is immune from bad records, bad fashion, misguided thinking, and I find it hard to believe that a Japanese person, like myself really represents the African-Amercian struggle (but not to say that we do not have our own to express), and can speak so definitvely on the subject. Sure, we Japanese have our own culture, but manga porn and koto concerts just don't have the same cachet (j/k no hate mail please). Personally, I learned to get over it, I've lived here my whole life, and have adopted certain traits as a product of my environment unapologetically. I'm not here to emulate anyones culture, the basic idea behind America is that everyone gives and takes a little from everyone. I am a mutant raised on equal parts of udon and burritos, sake and olde english, taiko and 808 drums.I laugh at the notion that we must bow to the African American as the source of all that is cool and righteous. (P.S. that's how you get clowned by the way)I don't remember the African American community as a whole owning the patent on the 3/4 drum pattern, nor do I recall the Sugarhill Gang being all that great musically. Choose your heroes wisely.Biggups to Karmacy, Far East Movement, Crown City Rockers, Arata, ISP, The Beat Junkies, and other Asian artists pushing this thing forward. It's not a question of them and us, it's a matter of bringing people closer together
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This event was monumental in many ways! Fact... Filipinos have been synonymous with Hip Hop culture just as Puerto Ricans in N.Y. and Mexicans in L.A. Filipinos have had a strong place in Hip Hop history with their contributions in graffiti like DREAM ONE, and in DJing like most members of The BEATJUNKIES and The Invisible Skratch Piklz! It is completely ignorant to accuse Filipinos of trying to be "Black", when their European Colonizers labeled them "Pigmy Nigritos" wich indicated that before years of colonial oppression by Europeans and neighboring Asian Countries, these people native to The PHILIPINES were indeed "Black"! Fact... Filipinos suffer the same conditions all people of color in America have suffered for years by European colonial oppression, wich has been the most underlining commonality inner city youth have shared through Hip Hop before this new era of subburbian Hip Hop kids, who only know MTV and have no idea what the essence of struggle and the ghetto is! So, for anyone who has the audacity to accuse Filipinos of adopting "Black" culture would only come from someone lacking true knowledge of Hip Hop and has no sense of the struggle people of color have had to struggle for years in America!-One-
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Like I said you know nothing. The father of Hip Hop was Kool Herc, He brought the break beats from Jamaica to Neww York in the 60S. In the African American Community the blacks played this game called "The Dozens". You would rhyme, but at the same time jokingly talk about each other. To most Hip Hop, well old. James Brown is probably biggest influence to hip hop. He primarily has a lot to do with its early involvement. Along with the funk bands of that period. So Kool Herc known as the founder of Hip Hop started all this. Wu tang clan was like 30 years later, but no one does that anymore. I think once Hip Hop becomes to commercial the blacks will abandon it like they did Jazz, Rock N Roll, The Blues and pretty much all the popular music they invented and come up with something new. They cant stands to be like other people and have other people emulate them. They keep re-inventing themselves. Why cant Asian do that. Invent a culture of Music and have everyone emulate us. Only th filipinos think they contributed something to Hip Hop. I like the CRUNK MUSIC anyway. Hip Hop is so Yester Year. If Hip Hop can bring people together then cool, but when you think of hip Hop. You do not think Asian. We are like the step kids in America when it comes to pop culture. Rick Rubin was just a music producer that took a risk on these black kids and got rich. To you Hip Hop started 40 years ago, to them hundreds of years ago thats the difference.
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Much love to all filipino rappers...Proud to be PinoyHipHop Is Alive
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***I'm over posting. Really, I would like to debate you, whoever you are, in the (editorial space and interest permiting)print version of Hyphen. There are two issues left this year, so if the editors are interested I am so game to do so, (HYPHEN, you have my email and I will be in contact soon.)"Yes, I can articulately and accurately describe both a 100% Asia-born music style enjoyed worldwide and it's growing popularity, with it's verified, independent origins from hip-hop.I can also argue that Asians do indeed have a place in hip-hop.If you're up to the task, I most certainly am. I really don't need you to be involved, I am most interested in doing so regardless. In the interest of presenting both opinions, I extend my challenge to you. I will make my point, and answer your question -I would just like for you to go on record with your opinions on hip-hop, simple as that***I had a really long post prepared, but this is all I really need to leave here:I'm going to call out the continuous references to, "the blacks" and, "they can't stand to be like other people and have other people emulate them", as part of a general theme in your posts.Who gave you the green light to represent an entire group of people as a whole, that resides on multiple continents? Do you have audited statisics, certified by a third-party that clearly indicate this?And, just to let you know, the fact that you refer to a group of people by their pigmentation level, indicates, at least to myself and some people (as in, not all) that read your diatribe, that you view and label people by their "color" (no accusation, just observation).It's such a, "those people", or a "my(insert ethnicity here)friend" statement.
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what was the name of those pinoy Hip Hop dudes on BET, MTV AND VH1. Im flipping there wasnt any. He Ha Ho. Maybe one day, not.
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HipHop has no race it's a generation,a point in time it's ur clock ticking as we speak and weather I or anyone likes so called asian hiphop doesn't matter cause any human being is capable of progression in any of the elements of hiphop.I my self grew up in this era and been going back to the Philippines my whole life and putting my ppls on to this whole culture from clothes,music and overall swag.Im a certified audio eng. emcee an owner of an independent underground hiphop label and I personally will see the progression and success of hiphop in my country the Philippines!BIG UP'S BOB MARLEY MOVEMENT OF JAH PEOPLELost Boyz (L.B.Fam) KILLAH PRIEST, DEAD PREZ ,Lost Children of babylon Verbal Beatz Moors Klick and my entire Golden Fleece Ent. Family. 100
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The Art form has been around for 40 years, by the time it progressess there it probably will be relpaced. Whats the wait
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In response to ecto who stated that the philippines have no official concept of enthic groups.... what about muslim mindanao and agta groups, the moro and negrito groups are marginalized by society at large and have definate complaints...
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Thats a another subject
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The Light, do you even know what a negrito is, its not your standard pinoy, its an ethnic group that has little interaction with tagalog culture (except for their land getting stolen), they even eat yams instead of rice, they are small (hence the pygmy name), and have very dark skin and kinky hair. Indonesia and Australia have the aborignes and papuan islanders, the philippines have negritos. The eurpeans never referred to the dominant malay culture on the philippine island as negrito or black, it was only reserved to the aborigine highlanders.
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The Light stop trying to bridge blacks and filipinos together it will never happen. Your using that lame excuse so you can try to act black. Cut this bs out now. Whenever filipinos try to do hiphop they over do it and try to act black and wear generic sterotypical hip hop clothing. Bling, baggy pants, durag. All for what its the artist that matters. They seriously should stop doing hip hop.
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I don't think black people innovate things and everyone just copys. Different races contribute to different styles. For example skateboarding is white now blacks are copying. This Bape phenom the asians. I am black as well and we don't make everything.
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Who do you think innivate nico the guy that invented bape? Fillipinos and blacks have a lot in common, a lot. ive been to the PI. I heard regine Vasquez sing. Im black and im saying this
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blacks act like bakla
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Blacks werent da people dat made up hiphop it was white boys named the beasty boys
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David:Only a fool would argue with you. Beastsie Boys, well thatS my laugh for the day
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two words: blue scholars.that's some fucking asian-american hip hop for ya.